In his Belfast Telegraph column the Liverpool loving BBC commentator whinges about Arsene Wenger's alleged whinging. The fat man says:
I, too, thought that Dirk Kuyt fouled Aleksandr Hleb in the first leg and that it should have been a penalty but to imply, as the Arsenal manager seemed to, that it wasn't given because the referee was Dutch - like Kuyt - was feeble.
"There is no credence in [the reports],” said the Frenchman. “A referee is like a manager - you want a clear game and to do your job well. I have no suspicion at all. You have to accept he made the wrong decision but he is honest.
Cheers to vivb for the spot.
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I have already written a letter of complaint to the paper, recently the media have seen Arsenal as an easy target because we simply don't hit back at criticism like this.
If you feel strongly about the medias constant drivel about our club then I urge you to complain to.
sorry forgot to mention, here is an address to send complaints to ;
userhelp@belfasttelegraph.co.uk
and here is a summary of what I wrote which you can use as a template if you want...
I have been a reader of your paper for a long time now and have always appreciated the fair and balanced views given by your team of articulate journalists. However for the first time in many years I have been compelled to write to you to complain about Alan Greens most recent article "Whinging Wenger is losing plot" dated 12/04/08.
I understand that Alan is a very opinionated man, and can respect his opinions if not always agree with them, what I simply can not tolerate is lazy journalism and the twisting of facts or even non-facts.
In his column Alan wrote the following...(link: LINK
"And I'm getting very tired of listening to his constant whinging.
Take the two penalty decisions in the European games. I, too, thought that Dirk Kuyt fouled Aleksandr Hleb in the first leg and that it should have been a penalty but to imply, as the Arsenal manager seemed to, that it wasn't given because the referee was Dutch - like Kuyt - was feeble."
Here he directly accuses Wenger of citing a dutch conspiracy, but where is the evidence to back this up? There simply isn't any! Yes there were some red top tabloids that amused us with the thought of dutch conspiracies but Wenger never did anything to imply this himself.
What Wenger actually said was the following...(link:http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=news&article=489875&cpid=703&title=Wenger+-+I+have+no+suspicion+about+ref+Vink)
"There is no credence in [the reports]," said the Frenchman. "A referee is like a manager - you want a clear game and to do your job well. I have no suspicion at all. You have to accept he made the wrong decision but he is honest."
Now I fully understand that the odd editorial mistake can occur now and again but to publish an article that uses shoddy misconstrued ideas to prove a point is damaging to the integrity of your paper. The whole point of Alan Greens article was to show that Wenger is a 'whinger' and his main point of evidence is that Wenger complained about a link between two dutch men, this as shown above is 100% fiction.
I feel as a loyal reader that I have been let down by this publication and expect an apology by Green as the bare minimum required to show that your paper has the integrity and class that it so aspires to.
Thank you for your time,
Yours Sincerely,
The press are the ones who raised the issue of the referee being Dutch. Then they blame Arsene for saying it. Typical British sports journalism. No integrity whatsoever. But I guess it's okay to treat Arsene like that because he's foreign. Fergie basically accuses referees of bias in his post game interviews and the press acts like it didn't happen. Pathetic.
Complain to the bbc to get him removed. His pro Liverpool propoganda has been going on for ages. Check this article from the independent Paragraph 7.
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Dont worry about it, the world needs a few cunts like him, they give us more strength, because its proving media terrorists like that wrong, that makes Arsenal what we are, we have fight against everyone. It makes the victory the more sweeter
I've never liked the man but I've always been absolutely convinced he's a Man Utd man. I don't think he's Liverpool.
Is Nero fiddling while Rome Burns?
If (as looks likely) we fail to win anything this season i feel next season is critical for Wenger. the economics of the Emirates demands success and Wenger may see himself being moved upstairs. His ability to spot a player is in question as is is his tactical acumen and 'winning ' mentality. Success is the currency and at the moment we are cash poor.
Wenger may be entering the 'George Graham' phase, whereby his own ego is detrimental to the bigger picture of a club that is set up for the ambition of being title winners and serious contenders. What Wenger has done in the past in bringing in unknown players and turning them into world class has been somewhat misenterpretated. When he bought in Pires,Overmars, Ljungberg, Petit, Henry,Wiltord, Gilbert,Silvinho,Van Bronckhorst they were already international players. His master stroke was Vieira who was able to take over where Tony Adams left off and lead the Club on the pitch, the character and personality of the team was that of winners and contenders who had strength & bottle as well as ability, winning titles and finishing second battling it out on the last day of the season. I can only remember those players capitulating once; at old trafford in the 6-1 debacle.
Wengers introduction of 'fully formed' players has not worked out since he disbanded the majority of the Unbeatables; Rosicky & Eduardo-injury, Reyes-homesick, Baptista-underperformed. He now seems to be obsessed with converting players.
Recently this has exposed in games where he had said we needed width he has played the following as wide players; Walcott and Van Persie strikers, Diaby Central midfield, Hleb who Wenger himself said is naturally a central player and Eboue who is Right back. Yet Wenger let Bentley leave the Club, hard to understand. Against Chelsea at 1-0 Wenger did not or could not change things and the fact that Wenger even mentioned Chelsea's long ball approach as mitigation against losing was ridiculous, did he not have an idea that they might do this? what was the point of bringing on Bentner in the 87th minute? this is against a team that Spurs put 4 past! tactical naivety.
Against Liverpool he chose to play the right back Eboue at right mid-field, a player who has not scored all season. And Toure, a central defender at right back. He left Song on the bench and therefore we where left with Senderos; this cost us dear. Despite the poor refereeing decision we should have been capable of closing the game down at 2-2.
Wenger is trying to create a squad of young players with potential and the truth is the squad is not good enough, the supposedly weakened teams that played in the Cups lost 5-1 & 4-0, this is clear evidence for the prosecution. The blunt refusal of Wenger to buy quality players in the summer and in the transfer window like Torres (who is toiling away in a sub standard Liverpool side), and Ribery has to be addressed. It's not about buying the league it's about competing in a market!
If Wenger delivers the League in May it will be a monumental achievement given the number of players still playing at the top level that have left the club to be replaced by youngsters, unparralled by any other team in the world; Henry, Vieira, Reyes, Kanu, Ljungberg, Van Bronckhorst, Silvinho, Pennant, Upson, Baptista, Bentley, Pires, Laarson, Campbell, Lauren, Alliadierre,Cole Diarra , Anelka ,Sidwell to consistently lose quality and experience and to come up trumps would be nothing short of miraculous
Everyone saw what we were capable of in the San Siro this season but it's the consistency of a killer instinct and the direction the club is going on the pitch under Wenger that still remains a question mark
Let's see...
James Jalloh Islington
Arse&Nose,
I sent something similar to your comment but to the following addresses:
slnews@belfasttelegraph.co.uk
slsportsdesk@hotmail.com
userhelp@belfasttelegraph.co.uk
writeback@belfasttelegraph.co.uk
What an incredulous fat bastard cunt. I hate him aswell, he deserves to be shut in a room and forced to listen to his fucking disgusting irritating voice on 606 for the rest of his life.
In the same article the twat says of Wenger: "He lamented the lack of experience of the Arsenal defending at the penalty incident without apparently noticing that the man at fault was his most experienced defender!" Excuse me - I would've thought Gallas was a little more experienced?
A trivial point perhaps, but it further shows that despite the fact that Green's job is 1000 times easier than Wenger's, he can't even manage the absolute basics of factual accuracy. The man is a disgrace.
Cheers Fuse,
I will add my weight to that by sending an email to those addressess aswell!
ARSENAL ALWAYS DO THINGS THE ARSENAL WAY SHAME ABOUT THE ALL THE JOURNALISTS
It is not only Green who is most definately biased towards Liverpool and United. The level of pro Liverpool bias throughout BBC sport is very high. Green is part of the furniture of the football establishment that sees Man U at the top,Liverpool second and the rest there to make up the opposition. This is why the BBC are continually silent on the disgraceful behaviour of Sir Alex Ferguson and the appalling, dull defensive football of Liverpool.
606 has now become a Liverpool supporters programme. which is why I no longer listen. Ex Liverpool players like Hansen and Lawrenson are not surprisingly incredibly biased - which is why despite being in the entertainment industry Wenger gets no credit from the BBC for the entertainment value Arsenal provide in every match. I and neutrals like me massively outnumber the number of United and Liverpool fans combined so why can't our perspective that skill and attacking football rather than getting results at any cost for their team- be more adequately recognised by a media we pay for?
As an Arsenal supporter from down under i can see why we call you whinging POMS. Fucking grow up!!!!We were beaten...........Why,because our tight fisted french twat of a manager will not get his cheque book out.....And when he does he only buys nobodys or another young that is French related.I have had it with him,Arsene FUCK OFF now you have had your time.Oh by the way Arsene take Eboue, Senderos,Ade,,Van Persie,Traore,Hoyte,gilberto,Brendtner,Mad Jens,Almunia,Gallas,Diaby,and Pat Rice with you.Viva BERGKAMP...........................
John Terry, Kuyt, Ronaldo, Rooney, ASHLEY BUMHOLE and Peter Sutcliffe He Is A Fucking Bitch.Well liverpool were just fucking lucky.I wonder how do the Shitty refs sleep at night.
[...] happens today, let us not give the rabid mudslingers - whose true, twisted agenda is exposed and typified by this libelous bile - what they crave most: Arsenal to lose their [...]
[...] likely find yourself being aurally raped by Alan Green who, if you didn’t already know, is a fat, ignorant, Liverpool supporting cunt who writes bullshit articles for the Belfast Telegraph. It’s no wonder he’s such a fat [...]
Grahame from Aus, F* off and go play with your boomerang. You don't know anything about football. It's armchair supporters like you who make ludicrous suggestions to get rid of half the team plus the manager that don't deserve an opinion.
Do excuse the various typos above . . . .
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To Grahame of Aus . . . .
Calm down cobber, crack open a tinnie and chill by the barbie, mate. Maybe get a sheila to rub your feet for ya . . . . deep breath and relax . . .
Now perhaps we can talk sense . . . . we were not beaten ( against Liverpool ? ) because Wenger ( tight fisted French Twat ? ) didn't buy anyone. We were clearly robbed by two major decisions. Whether we should have bought or should do is not the issue here.
The fact Arsene primarily buys foreign, not just French, youth is that they often better technically and cheaper. All round good value. Of course let's not forget this same policy also brought us Bentley, Pennant, Ashley Cole and currently Theo Walcott.
Only buys nobody's ? Yes, I was fuming when he bought some kid called Thierry Henry, I can't believe he got so many games in a Red and White shirt . . .
You would also get rid of a whole raft of players and Pat Rice ? Anyway, I think I have fed the troll enough, if indeed that what the comment was supposed to provoke, I hope that satisfied . . . .
In the meantime, I have never had a problem with Green. I have thought him opinionated and taken him as such with a pinch of salt. Unlike the appointed gurus on MoTD, Hansen and Lawro. Maybe I am dumb but I didn't pick any particular leaning from AG other than the usual anti-Arsenal line and it all blurs into one in th media now no matter what the agenda.
However, I think AW was misquoted as I am sure I heard in the post match interview at some point that Wenger says it was a " co-incidence " about the Dutch connection. This of course can be taken as a sly comment or as a straight opinion. Unfortunately , maybe Wenger's intonation hindered what was said and helped journalist twist his words, yet again . . .
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I sent this:
Lazy rabble-rousing journalism. Alex Ferguson clearly and deliberately targets referees in his post-match interviews and yet Green singles out Wenger, (a man with more integrity in his little finger than Green has in his fat bloated body) for the sort of fact-blind vitriol that is clearly at odds with his position both on your paper and indeed the BBC. Wenger actually said that any inference that the referee made anything other than a simple mistake was nonsense.
It’s a sad fact of journalism that columnists need to appear to be controversial and to engender debate – the ‘He tells it like it is’ tabloidesque school, if you will. What you’ve got in Alan Green is a ‘He tells it like it isn’t’ columnist. Shame on you for paying him a fee for that article.
A retraction is in order to salvage some integrity. For yourselves, that is. Green is far beyond that sort of help.
The sad thing is that Alan Green is just one of many in the media who have got it in for Arsenal. I've just been watching SSN this morning to hear about the build up to the game,what a disappointment.
All I got was hours of Man Utd propaganda, clips of their victories, stats about London teams never scoring at OT,the 4-0 fa cup loss,no mention of us doing the double over them last season? It took 20minutes for them to mention Arsenal!
Even when they did mention Arsenal they showed clips of some 'fans' outside the Emirates, all of whom called for Wenger to be replaced; then it as back to the clips of United propaganda!
Now I know R.Murdoch is a United supporter, and Sky had shares in Man Utd but surely they cant be this biased?
Grahame from Aus, put your tottnumb shirt on and go back to fucking that 'roo mate.
"Why,because our tight fisted french twat of a manager will not get his cheque book out"
Sorry, but how the fuck can you can yourself an arsenal fan?
calling the manager a 'twat'?
Calling him a 'french twat'?
What the fuck is that about? Jealousy that you're descended from convicts and live in a world-renowned black hole for culture?
Go fuck yourself, you stupid aussie turd.
Youse lot need to sort your heads out. Bitter, jealous morons. I'd say a lot worse if you were standing in front of me - and I wouldn't just leave it at verbals.
To have a go at us when we play for 96 angels every week and are one of the most respected clubs in the world is SICK.
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WAT WUD AFAT IGNORANT CUNT LIKE GREEN KNOW ABOUT FOOTBALL HE SHUD STICK TO WAT HE NOSE BEST MC DS OR BURGERKING WANKER
I read that report and wanted to post a comment somewhere. Alan Green is a cunt and a lazy cunt at that. how many people have written the same old shit already? Can't the anti Arsenal fuckers come up with a new angle. Oh and while I'm here John Terry is a cunt and a has been at that.