Ivan the not so terrible

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Whilst there is doubtless a great deal of work going on behind the scenes at the club, we’re still waiting for the transfer scene for Arsenal to fulminate in the public domain. The whispers in the corridor suggest the next few days could see that change, but whilst the whispers have yet to echo their way into arsenal.com type confirmation, there is little concrete to report.

Arsenal have of course confirmed the signing of 19 year old Charlton full back Carl Jenkinson. I know little to nothing about the guy, but it could prove to be an astute signing if it moves Eboue closer to the exit door. As pointed out by @YoungGunsBlog, Jenkinson qualifies as home trained and therefore does not count towards our 25 man squad quota. His signing still keeps another space free within that parameter.

The futures of Clichy, Nasri and Fabregas remain pending, so in truth, there isn’t a great deal to expand on those issues since last week’s column. So from a journalistic point of view, it’s probably just as well that I was honoured enough to be one of the 200 or so in attendance at the Arsenal Supporters’ Trust’s Q & A session with Ivan Gazidis last night. Otherwise, I fear some Hemingway style padding might have been on the cards for this week’s entry!

It was my first opportunity to view one of these sessions in the flesh. It’s clear that Mr. Gazidis is a very smooth operator and completely at ease in the bear pit of supporter dialogue. I thought the atmosphere would be tinged with a good deal more poison than was present. But I think Gazidis was smart with his opening gambit. He confronted the ticket price rise straight away and probably disarmed possible hostility by describing the season as “a profound disappointment” and bemoaning a “familiar story over the last part of the season.”

Largely Gazidis said what one would expect him to say. That the season had ended disappointingly and that the club were working hard to rectify weaknesses in the squad, but that he backed the manager “100%” and emphasised the club’s style of play and fiscal stability as positives worthy of illumination. He pointed to the fact that most clubs see us as the model for how a football club should operate. “We do it appallingly badly, but better than everyone else” he quipped at one point regarding the club’s efficiency in the market.

I think most people understand that by now, the trouble is those were positives for the club five years ago too and we don’t seem to have been able to expand the ‘pros’ box too much since. That patois is beginning to wear thin with some.

Ivan Gazidis at the AST meeting

Gazidis had a very disarming manner in dealing with some of the more tempestuous questions; such as the assertion that players didn’t have any pride in the club. Rather than contest the points, when the temptation to say, “Oh, just fuck off” must’ve been chewing away at him like an angry badger, he acknowledged and accepted the criticisms and pledged to work on them. Politician’s prerogative or genuine promise? I suppose the proof will be in the pudding.

That said, for all his charm, some I spoke to over a shandy after the session suggested that a few of his more defensive comments on ticket pricing could easily have been misinterpreted. The contention that the club have the length of waiting list to have supported them in driving the prices up long before now could easily have been read as, “If you don’t like it, there’s plenty more cash cows grazing in the field.”

But amidst the quite understandable towing of the party line from the CEO there were some rather interesting tit-bits that I had not heard from any other organ of the club. For instance, the explanation for the rise in fees for Silver Membership had not been fully set out in any club literature I had seen. Gazidis explained that the high churn in Red Members suggested that membership was not bringing tangible enough benefits to people and therefore required revamping.

As a consequence the price of silver membership had to become commensurate with red. Gazidis also explained that the inflated fee acted as a kind of encouragement for Silver members to use their memberships as there were a great many that were either cherry picking fixtures or else just sitting on them.

This tied in neatly with a question from the floor around transparency – particularly in attendance figures – which are clearly a source of mirth and disgruntlement when they are announced in the stadium. It has become commonplace for ridiculously overcooked figures to be announced with scores of empty seats visible. Personally, I can’t see why people get in such a tizzy about this barely relevant issue. It’s perhaps symptomatic of the feeling of disillusionment at large that people really will piss their pants about any old thing.

But Ivan outlined that the criticism the club would receive from those that couldn’t secure tickets would far outweigh the disgruntled sniggers of those inside the stadium if the club were to announce the true “bums on seats” figure. “Every empty seat is a travesty” he gushed, whilst committing to redouble the effort to make the club’s ticket exchange policy bare more fruit.

I’m not sure I’ve seen an awful lot of reportage of Gazidis’ comments around the season ticket price rise. It was pointed out that utility bills for the stadium had increased by 100% in the last two years. Excuse me whilst I duck below the parapet when I say I think he also had a point when he said that the disgruntlement for the price rise was set against a backdrop of regular price freezes.

However, that’s slightly disingenuous because it doesn’t recognise that prices were hiked at inflation busting levels in the years building up to the stadium move as well as the contentious bond issue in 2003. In 2001, my season ticket rose by 23.5%. But hang on? Wasn’t David Dein our vice-Chairman then? Surely the great philanthropist of N5 did not but fart perfume?

Gazidis also had some interesting comments around UEFA’s Financial Fair Play legislation and, perhaps surprisingly, he did not sound supportive. Whilst he said he hoped that it would stabilise salary inflation, he worried that the trend would be for clubs to try to drive short term revenues straight from the supporters. That could quite possibly be considered a rather apposite point to make when you’ve just spent a large section of your evening defending a season ticket price rise, but it made for interesting listening all the same.

Perhaps the most contentious remarks of the evening arrived when Gazidis answered a flat question around whom exactly Wenger is accountable to with the retort, “Ultimately, the fans.” It was possibly his only answer of the night that was met with open derision and I have to say, I found it a confusing and worrying remark. Once he’d squirmed a little and recomposed himself, Gazidis did manage to mumble mealy mouthed that Arsene is accountable to the Board of Directors, but it didn’t strike you as the most resounding confirmation.

Arsene Wenger

There were two problems with the remark. Firstly, the flimsy pretext appeared to all but confirm the suspicion of many that the manager does have an autocratic role at the club. Secondly, it seemed to almost invite supporters that favour a change of management to become even more voluble in their acid tongued dissent. Listening to supporters and engaging a constructive dialogue is one thing, but to suggest they should be the gauge upon which professional, executive decisions are made is a little perplexing to me.

Gazidis was rather non committal on the issue of share dividends. He confirmed that Kroenke had not placed any debt on the club, but would only move so far as to say he had no reason to believe Silent Stan would re-trigger dividends for board members working on the assumption that past behaviour is an indicator of future performance. Ivan’s avowal that Kroenke would “remain in the background” suggests we’re unlikely to hear anything from the man himself any time soon. Which I think quite understandably concerns a lot of people.

All in all, it was a very interesting evening. I think Gazidis handled it incredibly well and, speaking from a personal standpoint, I happen to believe he has done a good job in the two and a half years he has been in situ. One must understand that he currently straddles an ugly power battle between the club’s two majority shareholders, whilst also trying to keep the third wheel spinning in the shape of an increasingly aggravated fan base. It’s quite an undertaking and one I think he manages well.

Whatever your opinion of him you have to extend full credit to him for facing the music and doing so on his lonesome. That said, I don’t think any of the questions from the floor (which were not pre-submitted or vetted) threw him any curve balls. I imagine he was thoroughly prepared for every question that came his way. There was certainly nothing that surprised me. Nevertheless, there aren’t many football clubs of our size that indulge such a forum.

A big thank you must go to the likes of Nigel Phillips, Tim Payton and everyone at the Arsenal Supporter’s Trust for making such a well organised and important event possible. It was a pleasure to speak and share a light ale or two with some you too. Until next week, Up the Arse. LD.

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Thoughts on Gazidis and the AST + round-up

Morning all,

much of what’s about this morning stems from Ivan Gazidis and his meeting with some of the AST membership last night. He came along, answered the questions, said all the right things and none of it was in any way earth-shattering or unexpected.

He said that the manager had the 100% support of the board, which I think we already knew. What was interesting was when pressed on what might precipitate a change of manager and to whom Arsene was accountable, he said:

Arsene is ultimately accountable to the fans – they ultimately make judgment. If you are seeing the relationship between the fans and the manager break down over time that is unsustainable. But I don’t think we are anywhere near that.

I know fans are important, and some fans certainly like to feel important, but to me the manager should be accountable first and foremost to the board, to those who run the club. It just strikes me as odd that the board will gauge fan reaction to make a decision about the most important footballing position at the club.

It’s clear there are those who feel Arsene has taken the club as far as he can and that a change is overdue. There are others who believe he should be given more time. So where is the tipping point at which the board will decide one point of view is most widely held and therefore most relevant? Does it suggest that there’s a lack of footballing expertise in the current set-up?

Ivan was understanding:

I share with you a sense of profound disappointment. We had a season that promised a great deal and looked like it could turn into a very special one, but in the end a familiar story began to tell itself. I understand the feelings that we all felt

And Ivan told us what we wanted to hear:

It is very clear we had some shortcomings and in this close season we are going to see some turnover of players. Some new signings will be coming in and some of our existing squad will be going out. As Arsène has said, it will be a busy close season for the club.

All in all, pretty much what you’d expect from an event in such a public forum. I think it’s a good idea to have this meeting, fair play to Ivan for attending and fair play to the AST for organising, but much like Arsene never criticises his players in public – a topic that came up during the meeting – the same applies with the Chief Executive and the manager, or anyone else involved in the club. And it would be disappointing if it were any other way.

What I would hope is that meetings like this encourage him, and the board, to be a bit more assertive in terms of what consitutes success in footballing terms. Yes, Champions League qualification is all important and we know it’s not easy, but you do get the sense that Arsene needs to feel a bit more pressure from within. Changes that have been needed for some time haven’t happened because Arsene has so much power over the footballing side of the club.

Yet pressure, or even encouragement from Gazidis, or higher up, to maximise the resources available to him could be fruitful. The inevitable calls for the return of David Dein – as if he were some kind of miracle worker – suggest that people want to see the manager aided and abetted in football terms – but that responsibility now lies with Ivan Gazidis.

Anyone expecting that relationship to have the Wenger-Dein dynamic will be disappointed, as that belongs to the past and because of the way Dein left the club (with £75m in his pocket), it will remain there. We can’t look backwards for solutions, only forwards, and to my mind it’s wrong that Arsene should only feel pressure from the management of the club if they feel pressure from the fans in the first place. He should feel that as a matter of course, like any of us would in our jobs.

What I’m hopeful of is that the club moves away from the position of always saying the right things – and this is something we see from meetings such as last night’s to the ‘We must try harder’ stuff from players after a defeat – to actually doing the right things. For Ivan Gazidis and Arsene Wenger this means being as active as they say they’re going to be in the transfer market.

He told us players would come and players would go and that the club would operate within its resources (as if we didn’t know that already!) but it has gone beyond a point where that is enough. I got fed up last season with players apologising after another limp performance. I no longer wanted to hear what they had to say about it, I wanted to see a response on the pitch. And the same applies to the manager and the board. I won’t say it’s easy to sit in front of 200 fans of varying shades of disgruntledness but when you’re as intelligent and perceptive as Ivan Gazidis is, it’s easy to tell them what they want to hear.

Let’s see how the next few weeks pan out and let’s hope that he’s true to his word about the amount of activity at the club this summer. If you want to watch the videos of the meeting you can do so here, part 1part 2.

In other news, most of which involves possible transfers, Sky Sports ‘understands’ we’re stepping things up in the chase for Christopher Samba while the Mirror suggests we could scrap it out with Sp*rs for his signature.

The Sun says Gervinho wants to ‘snub’ Sp*rs and join us instead while they also link us with a teenage Swedish defender called Alexander Milosevic. He’s a left back. Update: according to people who have actually seen him play he’s a centre-half.

The Mail reports we’ll make a £12m bid for the aforementioned Gervinho. And I guess time, and Ivan Gazidis, will tell.

Beyond that not much more to tell you – other than there’s a new item in the Arseblog Store. Skins for your iPhones, both for iPhone 3/original and iPhone 4. Numbers are a bit limited though so grab ‘em early.

Remember to check out the news site for stories that break between now and tomorrow, at which point we’ll do all this again!

Have a good one.